Numbers, dates and places
Pronunciation Workshop — thirteen or thirty, and why big numbers lag.
~35 minNumbers are where mistakes actually cost you
Missing a word in a conversation is a small problem. Missing a number means paying the wrong amount, arriving on the wrong day, or getting off at the wrong stop.
Thirteen or thirty: two clues, not one
The pair everybody fears. There are two separate clues and you should use both.
| Word | What to listen for |
|---|---|
| thirTEEN | stress on the second syllableand a clear, true T |
| THIRty | stress on the first syllableand the T becomes a fast d — “thirdy” |
| fifTEEN | second syllable, true T |
| FIFty | first syllable, “fifdy” |
| twenty | “twenny”the T after N disappears completely |
Watch: numbers in a real family card game
Numbers in your language, numbers in English
Nepali groups large numbers in lakh and crore. English groups in thousands and millions, and writes the commas in different places: 1,00,000 in Nepal is 100,000 in the US.
So when you hear a large number in English you are doing two jobs at once — catching it and converting it. That is why big numbers feel so much harder than small ones.
Chinese groups large numbers in 万 (ten thousand) and 亿. English groups in thousands and millions. So 100,000 is 十万 in Chinese but “one hundred thousand” in English — a different grouping entirely, not just a different word.
You are catching the number and regrouping it at the same time, which is why large numbers lag behind everything else in your listening.
If your language groups large numbers differently from English, drill the conversions until they are automatic. Catching the number and converting it at the same time is what makes big numbers slow.
Dates and places
Two more traps that cost real money:
- Date order. Americans say and write month first — 9/6 is September 6, not 9 June. On a form, on a ticket, in speech.
- Dropped “hundred and”. 210 is usually said “two ten”, 360 as “three sixty”. Prices and room numbers both do this.
- Place names break the rules. Nobody can guess them. Ask for the spelling — “Sorry, how do you spell that?” is a completely normal question that Americans ask each other.
Say the numbers back
Record yourself saying each pair so the difference is obvious: 13/30 · 14/40 · 15/50 · 16/60 · 17/70. Save as “Week 5 — Workshop 5”.